• Telnetvision (new) + AvatarChat (updated to 0.2.x) = insanity

    From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to All on Tuesday, May 26, 2026 15:55:03
    Been working on these 2 projects and they actually sort of work together in a cool way, basically imagine a BBS chat room where it can tune a station, broadcasted by someone with whatever they want to stream, live, with automatic closed captioning, is being rendered using ANSI glyphs in true color synced across users with no drift. I think of it as a virtual BBS couch.

    There's a bit more to the update below, but in short the projects are here and there if you want to try or look for the bite sized details: https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision and https://github.com/hmderdoc/avatar_chat_universal

    Besides telnetvision integration Avatar Chat has been updated with bridging chat networks in mind, with included bridges for irc, discord, telegram, matrix and slack. Last but not least there is a forked version of Moebius that can connect and send ANSI's to avatar chat and interact on that network - sending ANSI's has always been possible but all editors were on my domains, the moebius fork at least brings that functionality available to other servers.

    If you do somehow manage to get your own telnetvision broadcast going, you can tune an avatar chat room channel to a broadcaster by typing (using my domain as an example) `/tvtuner futureland.today 7601 cam` - the params being server-url, port, and channel-name.

    If you install the new avatar chat and want to see the tv feature in action, just type `/join #tv` something should be broadcasting.

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Hm Derdoc on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 17:13:56
    Been working on these 2 projects and they actually sort of work together in a cool way, basically imagine a BBS chat room where it can tune a station, broadcasted by someone with whatever they want to stream, live, with automatic closed captioning, is being rendered using ANSI glyphs in true color synced across users with no drift. I think of it as a
    virtual BBS couch.

    https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision and https://github.com/hmderdoc/avatar_chat_universal

    Really cool - can we see both on the Future Land BBS?

    or futureland.today??



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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to paulie420 on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 19:58:05
    Yeah, it's running on futureland.today - you can see the telnetvision door running before login and also afterwards by navigating to Apps -> Telnetvision. The chat app is under Demos -> AC_Universal, a little hard to discover, it's in that section on my board for now not because of the working state but just because it sort of competes with the pre-existing BBS shell chat integration (which now kinda sucks in comparison to this new version, no TV support), so check out AC_Universal in the demo section and "/join #tv" - I'm streaming live network TV right now, to change the channel, say "Derdoc change the channel and I'll flip it manually if I see it," Remote-control is something that can be built it just would probably depend on what you're streaming and how, but you can pretty much stream anything live with a little effort - TV is a little tricky (DRM) and good to show latency across clients; the other option was live streaming myself and doing silly tricks on cue.

    but you don't even have to logon to BBS or install as a door to get in on the couch experience, it runs in standalone mode from CLI and should have futureland.today as a default server but i'd make sure you're passing it a username so it doesn't just pick it up from your system username, just glance at the .ini file

    if one were to play around with the broadcaster in an attempt to create their own channel/relay it can work cross domain and be sticky to a chat room, so like if you were to get the broadcaster / relay setup with ports open on 20forbeers.com on a channel called 'pauliecast' - you could make a room on futureland.today #20forbeers and type `/tvtuner 20forbeers.com 7601 pauliecast` it'd essentially be like a chat room topic you can change, and whenever people joined the room it would tune to that station. so in an ideal world there'd be more options than my current silly stream. movie nights, tv marathons, gaming streams, webcams, experiments it'd be cool to just hop chat rooms and have that old school synchronized media experience if someone shows up.

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  • From Mortar@1:124/5016 to Hm Derdoc on Thursday, May 28, 2026 10:02:38
    Re: Re: Telnetvision (new) + AvatarChat (updated to 0.2.x) = insanity
    By: Hm Derdoc to paulie420 on Wed May 27 2026 19:58:05

    ...movie nights, tv marathons, gaming streams, webcams, experiments.

    Interesting. However, there are legal considerations when it comes to rebroadcasting commercial programming you might want to consider.
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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to Mortar on Thursday, May 28, 2026 10:22:10
    Re: Re: Telnetvision (new) + AvatarChat (updated to 0.2.x) = insanity
    By: Mortar to Hm Derdoc on Thu May 28 2026 10:02 am

    Interesting. However, there are legal considerations when it comes to rebroadcasting commercial programming you might
    want to consider.
    For sure - What I'm doing right now rebroadcasting stuff that anyone with antenna could get is a lot less problematic for
    me to defend despite being a gray area than doing something like streaming some new movie release. The former is ad
    supported, ads are being delivered intact and one might be able to say that the net-effect is good for the broadcaster
    assuming the person viewing wouldn't watch otherwise, more eyeballs for ads. The latter example is much more problematic
    because it's easy to make a case that harm occurred to the copyright holder; the user who decides to watch a movie via
    "Telnetvision" instead of at the theatre has caused damages of at least the value of a movie ticket --- there may be more
    shades of gray though, like if you stream netflix and everyone in that channel is a netflix subscriber in reality there's
    not much reason for Netflix to care legally from a damages standpoint. There's also an argument to be made that
    syndication in text-mode isn't much of a 1:1 substitute.

    None of my counterpoints mean I think I'm in the clear, definitely consider risk, that's why I'm broadcasting local NBC
    versus something that is subsidized by cable subscriptions like ESPN, which is sketchier. Good advice - always consider
    risk... The other argument is that no one will ever find out because it's on a BBS and hardly anyone uses BBS's. If
    Hollywood were paying attention to them, at least that means new eyeballs on bbs's in beverly hills - that is one success
    metric I guess. I'll probably not broadcast TV long term on my channel, maybe sometimes but I could just as easily stream
    a bird feeder camera or anything else,TV's a good demo of latency related stuff for now if people have TV's that can show
    the true signal it sort of demonstrates the encoding speed.

    cheers

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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Hm Derdoc on Thursday, May 28, 2026 18:41:01
    Yeah, it's running on futureland.today - you can see the telnetvision
    door running before login and also afterwards by navigating to Apps -> Telnetvision.

    Love it - super impressive over a terminal soft. Thanks for sharing, and its cool that you put the source up on git. NiCE!!

    if one were to play around with the broadcaster in an attempt to create their own channel/relay it can work cross domain and be sticky to a chat room, so like if you were to get the broadcaster / relay setup with
    ports open on 20forbeers.com on a channel called 'pauliecast' - you
    could make a room on futureland.today

    This is sick - maybe I'll have to spin a channel up!!

    Also, I'm super impressed w/ futureland.today BBS - very cool creation, Hm - I made a post about it on 2oFB so others know... these gems of BBSes need to be talked about so other users know about the impressive ones. Great w0rk!!



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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Hm Derdoc on Thursday, May 28, 2026 18:42:36
    None of my counterpoints mean I think I'm in the clear, definitely consider risk, that's why I'm broadcasting local NBC
    versus something that is subsidized by cable subscriptions like ESPN, which is sketchier. Good advice - always consider
    risk...

    Oh gosh, I wouldn't be w0rried about that - stream whatever the heck you like!



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  • From l33tz0r@1337:3/129 to Mortar on Friday, May 29, 2026 09:38:53
    Interesting. However, there are legal considerations when it comes to rebroadcasting commercial programming you might want to consider.

    It's only illegal if you get caught! :) Besides, who's going to know about it but a small group of old hackers?

    But in all seriousness, I am wondering if it could be really considered a "rebroadcast". a) it's a small target and b) it isn't a faithful reproduction by any measure. I suppose if a copyright holder wanted to raise a stink about it they could, but it seems something like this could be covered under fair use or derivative works. I wouldn't spend the money to defend it in court though.

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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Thursday, May 28, 2026 19:40:00

    Been working on these 2 projects and they actually sort of work together in a cool way, basically imagine a BBS chat room where it can tune
    a station, broadcasted by someone with whatever they want to stream,
    live, with automatic closed captioning, is being rendered using
    ANSI glyphs in true color synced across users with no drift. I think
    of it as a virtual BBS couch.

    There's a bit more to the update below, but in short the projects are here and there if you want to try or look for the bite sized details: https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision and https://github.com/hmderdoc/avatar_chat_universal

    Any chance of a Win32 version?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1337:3/178 to l33tz0r on Saturday, May 30, 2026 07:47:41
    l33tz0r wrote to Mortar <=-

    Interesting. However, there are legal considerations when it comes to rebroadcasting commercial programming you might want to consider.

    It's only illegal if you get caught! :) Besides, who's going to know about it but a small group of old hackers?

    I wonder if the provisions in the Copyright Act allowing fair use for
    converting media for use in unsupported systems would apply? I'm
    thinking of the "analog hole" that made copying a DVD to cassette
    applicable when you didn't have a DVD player in your car.

    One could argue that it'd be different than rebroadcasting TV
    programming for viewing on a TV.




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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to paulie420 on Saturday, May 30, 2026 11:34:01
    Love it - super impressive over a terminal soft. Thanks for sharing, and its cool that you put the source up on git. NiCE!!

    This is sick - maybe I'll have to spin a channel up!!

    Thanks! Definitely give broadcasting a try, the more channels the better the "TV network" becomes, I also have a relay service running so if anyone wants to connect to that, instead of setting up a relay on their BBS, LMK, just need to have a channel name and shared secret to broadcast. I try to put all my BBS source code online, even the stuff that isn't for people to download and re-run like my shell and website code - ultimately my BBS and most software is probably 99.9% tricks from various places melted into a collage and if people want to examine internals of stuff to build new things that blow my mind, I'm here for that.

    Also, I'm super impressed w/ futureland.today BBS - very cool creation, Hm - I made a post about it on 2oFB so others know... these gems of BBSes need to be talked about so other users know about the impressive ones. Great w0rk!!

    Thanks again - I've been on a BBS bender the last 9 months, this is probably the 3rd incarnation of futureland.today, the last one sucked kinda hard although it was truly custom / written from scratch. Before that I ran synchronet for a number of years with other custom UI's - in 2014 I think I was lucky to stumble across boards like: fatcatsbbs.com, bbs.electronicchicken.com, and thebrokenbubble.com where the UI's got crafted more with javascript code than loading a series of menu files. Those guys used to have a group / network called "center of awareness" (centerofawareness.net), you needed a modded out BBS to join, eventually futureland v1 was let in as probably the worst of the group. Now futureland v3 is back, but CoA is dead, looks like phenom is dead and araknet too... maybe I just don't where to look or maybe the void is real but I agree not only for the sake of my BBS, if I hadn't figured out how to route to those BBS's mentioned above many years back without getting bogged down in the muck my life would be different, I may have never starting slinging javascript around which turned into a career after cutting my teeth in the relatively low stakes world of BBS mods

    cheers,

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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to paulie420 on Saturday, May 30, 2026 11:40:05
    Oh gosh, I wouldn't be w0rried about that - stream whatever the heck you like!

    Yeah, I don't think anyone will find out or care unless you did something really bold like take pay per view television and broadcast it - but I'd say only if you advertise and put it in front of your login (which I'm doing with my mod right now). I think if someone has to go through the effort login and launch a door the chance drops to zilch unless some user wants to be vindictive - but even then I don't think it's very high risk, there are defenses and government has better things to do

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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to Shurato on Saturday, May 30, 2026 11:55:05
    Any chance of a Win32 version?

    There is a windows32 of avatar chat I believe but maybe not the telnetvision code (relay / door). The broadcaster portion of telnetvision uses python so long as your machine can run that you can broadcast. If you email me, I can send you a key if you want to connect to my relay. But I'll also look into windows32 compatibility now, the relay being the main priority because AvatarChat universal should run on windows 32 last I checked and hopefully can tune to TV. I'll ping you when I have some new builds, hopefully not too long here.


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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to Shurato on Saturday, May 30, 2026 12:18:52
    Ok - it's ready, I probably should have just done it and then responded given how long it took.

    https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision/releases/tag/v0.1.1

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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Saturday, May 30, 2026 15:13:00

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Hm Derdoc said:

    Any chance of a Win32 version?

    There is a windows32 of avatar chat I believe but maybe not the
    telnetvision code (relay / door). The broadcaster portion of
    telnetvision uses python so long as your machine can run that you
    can broadcast. If you email me, I can send you a key if you want
    to connect to my relay. But I'll also look into windows32
    compatibility now, the relay being the main priority because
    AvatarChat universal should run on windows 32 last I checked and hopefully can tune to TV. I'll ping you when I have some new builds, hopefully
    not too long here.

    I can run python, but didn't have any luck using producer.py, it gave me nothing but errors. I'm using python 3.13.13. I can run telnetvision (and
    am) on my sbbs game server, which is fine for now. I just can't figure out
    how to connect to a url with it.

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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Saturday, May 30, 2026 15:15:00

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Hm Derdoc said:

    Ok - it's ready, I probably should have just done it and then responded given how long it took.

    https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision/releases/tag/v0.1.1

    Ok, got it. I still have no clue how to use the python.

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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Saturday, May 30, 2026 15:35:00

    Ok - it's ready, I probably should have just done it and then responded given how long it took.

    https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision/releases/tag/v0.1.1

    Here is the error producer.py gives me:

    C:\ele\telnetv>python producer.py
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "C:\ele\telnetv\producer.py", line 23, in <module>
    import termios
    ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'termios'


    I'd love to get this working, but either it or I need some serious help...

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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to Shurato on Sunday, May 31, 2026 11:45:06
    Re: Telnetvision (new) + AvatarChat (updated to 0.2.x) = insanity
    By: Shurato to Hm Derdoc on Sat May 30 2026 03:35 pm

    I'd love to get this working, but either it or I need some serious help...

    I shot you an email, sure you saw it, but for anyone else reading - I did push up some python changes and windows specific instructions.
    Hopefully works out but anyone else running windows I updated the broadcaster 12 hours ago, re-pull and re-try looking at readme as
    needed. <fingers crossed>

    cheers
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  • From paulie420@1337:3/129 to Hm Derdoc on Sunday, May 31, 2026 16:56:13
    Yeah, I don't think anyone will find out or care unless you did something really bold like take pay per view television and broadcast it - but I'd say only if you advertise and put it in front of your login (which I'm doing with my mod right now). I think if someone has to go through the effort login and launch a door the chance drops to zilch unless some
    user wants to be vindictive - but even then I don't think it's very high risk, there are defenses and government has better things to do


    I'm thinking pr0no @ 2oFB comin up real s000000n!



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  • From Mortar@1:124/5016 to Shurato on Monday, June 01, 2026 10:33:21
    Re: Telnetvision (new) + AvatarChat (updated to 0.2.x) = insanity
    By: Shurato to Hm Derdoc on Sat May 30 2026 15:13:00

    I'm using python 3.13.13.

    Well, there's your problem. A double "13" whammy.
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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 14:37:00

    https://github.com/hmderdoc/telnetvision and https://github.com/hmderdoc/avatar_chat_universal

    Is anyone using telnetvision with a windows machine and sockets? I only get console output, which isn't cutting it for me. As a last resort, I could use my sbbs gameserer, but I'd like to run this natively on my EleBBS! Would be the same as a Mystic Windows system.

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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to Shurato on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 18:27:22


    Is anyone using telnetvision with a windows machine and sockets? I only get console output, which isn't cutting it for me. As a last resort, I could use my sbbs gameserer, but I'd like to run this natively on my EleBBS! Would be the same as a Mystic Windows system.


    I'm wondering if the email I tried to send you went out, cause I checked my sent mail folder and I don't see it. If you didn't get my email, let me know and I'll see if I can dig up the entire details, but in essence I pushed up a new python version of the broadcaster which should support Windows (the termios problem you noted) and there is a newer 32 bit version of the door in the releases which I tried to add socket support to per your email. I also sent you some relay information of mine* (in case you wanted to skip step 2, in order to test step 1) - it's basically a 3 step process: 1. Broadcast (python running on computer with video signal) 2. Relay (daemon running on a server to receive broadcast frames) 3. Consume (Run telnetvision / avatar_chat_universal [in a tv room**]

    Anyways, I updated 2 things based on what you've reported, with regards to #1 broadcasting I updated the python libraries for windows so it won't choke, pull the latest changes from the repository which have the python scripts and try re-rerunning. If you need a test relay #2 you can use mine, just I'll send you (*) creds privately, or you can set your own up - just mainly breaking things into testable sections and #2 is the most "plumbing-oriented" feel free to borrow mine. #3 is what I think you're referring to as far as the issue with sockets, I tried to run with that information and make a new version of the telnetvision that supports sockets so check that out in the releases section.

    I though that Avatar Chat universal might support sockets already - I'll have to double check perhaps, but in any event you can also tune into TV with the new versions of that - you'd join a channel and you can use this syntax `/tvtuner futureland.today 7601 cam` and that would tune a chat room to a station at a relay hosted at `futureland.today` port `7601` on the `cam` channel.

    Let me know if you've had a chance to look at the latest changes and if you want to connect to my relay server or anything if that part is giving you issues. Hopefully the new stuff and some of the debugging info above gets a bit closer to solving this for you.

    Cheers,
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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 20:42:00

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Hm Derdoc said:



    Is anyone using telnetvision with a windows machine and sockets? I only
    get
    console output, which isn't cutting it for me. As a last resort, I
    could use
    my sbbs gameserer, but I'd like to run this natively on my EleBBS!
    Would be
    the same as a Mystic Windows system.


    I'm wondering if the email I tried to send you went out, cause I checked
    my sent mail folder and I don't see it. If you didn't get my email,
    let me know and I'll see if I can dig up the entire details,
    but in essence I pushed up a new python version of the broadcaster
    which should support Windows (the termios problem you noted) and
    there is a newer 32 bit version of the door in the releases which
    I tried to add socket support to per your email. I also sent you
    some relay information of mine* (in case you wanted to skip step 2, in
    order to test step 1) - it's basically a 3 step process: 1. Broadcast (python running on computer with video signal) 2. Relay (daemon
    running on a server to receive broadcast frames) 3. Consume (Run telnetvision / avatar_chat_universal [in a tv room**]

    Anyways, I updated 2 things based on what you've reported, with regards to #1 broadcasting I updated the python libraries for windows so it
    won't choke, pull the latest changes from the repository which have
    the python scripts and try re-rerunning. If you need a test relay
    #2 you can use mine, just I'll send you (*) creds privately,
    or you can set your own up - just mainly breaking things into
    testable sections and #2 is the most "plumbing-oriented" feel free to
    borrow mine. #3 is what I think you're referring to as far as the issue with sockets, I tried to run with that information and make a new
    version of the telnetvision that supports sockets so check that out
    in the releases section.

    I though that Avatar Chat universal might support sockets already - I'll have to double check perhaps, but in any event you can also tune into
    TV with the new versions of that - you'd join a channel and you can
    use this syntax `/tvtuner futureland.today 7601 cam` and that would
    tune a chat room to a station at a relay hosted at
    `futureland.today` port `7601` on the `cam` channel.

    Let me know if you've had a chance to look at the latest changes and if
    you want to connect to my relay server or anything if that part is
    giving you issues. Hopefully the new stuff and some of the debugging
    info above gets a bit closer to solving this for you.

    I received a netmail explaining the above and I downloaded it. It didn't
    have socket support though, so output was to the console which doesn't work
    for me. I'll look again.

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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 20:49:00



    Is anyone using telnetvision with a windows machine and sockets? I only
    get
    console output, which isn't cutting it for me. As a last resort, I
    could use
    my sbbs gameserer, but I'd like to run this natively on my EleBBS!
    Would be
    the same as a Mystic Windows system.


    I'm wondering if the email I tried to send you went out, cause I checked my sent mail folder and I don't see it. If you didn't get my email,
    let me know and I'll see if I can dig up the entire details,
    but in essence I pushed up a new python version of the broadcaster
    which should support Windows (the termios problem you noted) and
    there is a newer 32 bit version of the door in the releases which
    I tried to add socket support to per your email. I also sent you

    I didn't see a way of passing a dropfile or socket #. I have the latest version.

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  • From Hm Derdoc@1337:3/222 to Shurato on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 20:03:34
    I didn't see a way of passing a dropfile or socket #. I have the latest version.

    <FACEPALM> - I forgot to tag the new build on github, so the new release binaries weren't generated. Apologies for the idiocy. Should be part of the explanation - latest build was never published, 0.1.2 is available now and at least the things about sockets I said I did are actually there. <yikes>

    cheers,

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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 22:00:00

    I didn't see a way of passing a dropfile or socket #. I have the
    latest
    version.

    <FACEPALM> - I forgot to tag the new build on github, so the new release
    binaries weren't generated. Apologies for the idiocy. Should be part of the explanation - latest build was never published, 0.1.2 is
    available now and at least the things about sockets I said I did are actually there. <yikes>

    Thanks, will grab immediately!

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    ,wss, ssh utf-8) (22,23,110,21,119,999,2222) shsbbs.net FREQ Me!


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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 22:16:00

    I didn't see a way of passing a dropfile or socket #. I have the
    latest
    version.

    <FACEPALM> - I forgot to tag the new build on github, so the new release
    binaries weren't generated. Apologies for the idiocy. Should be part of the explanation - latest build was never published, 0.1.2 is
    available now and at least the things about sockets I said I did are actually there. <yikes>

    Yay! CBS is available. I'll need to add captions still.

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    ,wss, ssh utf-8) (22,23,110,21,119,999,2222) shsbbs.net FREQ Me!


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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 22:42:00
    Wow, this looks awesome with syncterm and truecolor ANSI support! Great
    work! Now if I can get captions working, that'll be awesome! Any way, if anyone wants, they can check out CBS (2.1) Boise at shsbbs.net (standard
    ports, but 999 for wss and 2222 for UTF-8 SSH) from Doors/ Utilities/Telnetvision (D/U/T from the main menu).

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    ,wss, ssh utf-8) (22,23,110,21,119,999,2222) shsbbs.net FREQ Me!


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  • From Shurato@1337:3/185 to Hm Derdoc on Saturday, June 06, 2026 16:46:00
    This guy has the patience of a saint if he can handle trouble-shooting for
    me! If I can get this working, anyone can!

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